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I am sure some of you have heard of this man making headlines a few months back by announcing his pregnancy. It seems he has given birth. Interesting news

Article here
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25519830/

I try not to be judgemental, but I don't think this is really a man. To me he/she is just a woman taking hormone pills & just had their breasts surgically removed. In the article it mentioned that she still had their female reproductive organs. It also said that the baby was not born via c-section, so I assume he or she still has a vagina too?

I feel sorry for the child that was born. Even if the baby is raised in a loving, productive home, I am sure they will deal with many teasing & even hatred maybe by outsiders.

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Rella123 Posted 07 July 2008 11:08 AM Hide Post
I try not to be judgemental, but I don't think this is really a man. To me he/she is just a woman taking hormone pills & just had their breasts surgically removed. In the article it mentioned that she still had their female reproductive organs. It also said that the baby was not born via c-section, so I assume he or she still has a vagina too?

I feel sorry for the child that was born. Even if the baby is raised in a loving, productive home, I am sure they will deal with many teasing & even hatred maybe by outsiders.
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Well, if you think about it, kids are born into this world every day, some facing pretty horrid circumstances from birth.

If this kid is born to a loving parent, sure, it may get difficult at times due to the situational problems that will likely arise; however, a loving parent or home is more than half the battle, and is certainly a good foundation to start with.

And while we all think of the traditional mom when the word comes up, there are already loads of men who play that role too. It's a changing vista for sure, at least from the days of June Cleaver, but then, many things have changed for the better, not all change is bad.

It's not realized widely, but people are born every day with both sex organs. It's just that in the U.S.A, with our medical system being what it is, more parents are urged to decide or make the choice for the kid before the kid even has that chance him or herself.

Now, over in certain other countries, it's not considered nearly as big or scary of in issue. And many times the child grows up to decide for themself.

But admittedly, that would be a tougher thing to face as a parent. As would be the issues some obviously deal with in respect to their orientation to begin with. But more power to him (or her) with parenting, hopefully, that will be a powerful committment for this mom of a different cloth.

An interesting update. Article with pictures of the baby and "dad". The mother is said to be breastfeeding through induced stimulation.

Check it out

The Former 'Pregnant Man' Debuts His Baby

I guess my biggest confusion with this whole situation is this...is this person, or does this person want to be a man or a woman?

I understand (don't agree with it personally, but understand) they were born as a woman but felt like a man. But if you say you're a man, then why keep your female reproductive organs?

He wants to be known as a man, and has touted himself as the "pregnant man" but he's really not. Yes, he and the government say he is, but nature (and by his own choices to have some procedures and not others) says he's really still a woman.

This is the dumbest "story" I have ever heard! Why is anyone even giving this woman the time of day? WE'RE MAKING A BIG DEAL ABOUT A WOMAN GIVING BIRTH. HELLO? Am I the ONLY one who thinks that's crazy? This happens all the time! The fact that she's had an operation doesn't change the fact that biologically, internally, she is still a woman.

Pardon my "insensitivity" on the issue.

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Originally posted by jdiz:
This is the dumbest "story" I have ever heard! Why is anyone even giving this woman the time of day? WE'RE MAKING A BIG DEAL ABOUT A WOMAN GIVING BIRTH. HELLO? Am I the ONLY one who thinks that's crazy? This happens all the time! The fact that she's had an operation doesn't change the fact that biologically, internally, she is still a woman.

Pardon my "insensitivity" on the issue.

You aren't the only one. I agree with some who are saying "Huh? What's the hype, a woman gave birth"

No, it isn't a medical marvel or miracle in that a real man as defined by biology gave birth. I don't see the hype either. I do think it is very cool that the mom is breastfeeding. I'd like to learn more about how that process works, actually. TAHT should be more the hype, IMHO.

THATS THE SAME THING MY HUSBAND SAID, BIG DEAL, HE'S NOT A MAN, HE'S A WOMAN. i DIDN'T THINK OF IT THAT WAY I GUESS UNTIL SOMEONE ACTUALLY SAID IT, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, IT HAPPENS EVERYDAY....DUH...

Yes, I think we mostly agree this is a person with woman reproductive organs.

I also think this made me reevaluate what stipulations are used to deem you legally a man or woman. I guess in past I thought (really hadn’t put a whole lot of thought into this) you would have to get rid of your woman parts to become a man legally. This made it apparent to us all that is not the case.

I found it interesting that this "dad" was able to keep facial hair while pregnant. I know hormones "he" was taking would make him grow facial hair. But I would think/assume he would have stopped taking the hormones while pregnant to keep from disrupting the pregnancy/hormone balance?

My beliefs on the morality and right and wrong of this, I will not get into. I just thought this was a learning, informative, and interesting lesson for me.

Shawn, I thought the same thing about 'what exactly is it that he did to legally be declared a man?'

Shawn ~

I'm just curious, but what do you think of the situations where it so happens, and it does so happen enough, where a child is born with both sexes?


Hermaphrodites, in other words, I've heard, and I think it's true, but the actress Jamie Lee Curtis was born that way. And I know, as I mentioned before, certain countries let the child grow up to decide for themself, which it will be.

In America, there still sometimes seems to be a phobia against the very thought of differences among people, and anything considered outside the norm is often shunned, up to and including those with disabilities. Although, this country on the whole is much better about it than in years past, prejudices still exist for those who are "different" in any way, shape, or form.

I would guess, having no firsthand experience with someone who's had a sex change or gender issue like this, but I'd have guess there could be great gender confusion with many people, due to NATURAL causes. I mean, come on, if some people are born with both sexes,(and it's not as rare as one thinks) it seems obvious that gender confusion could happen naturally.

Does God or a higher power love any child less? I would think not.

Anyway, just my thoughts. Who am I to judge? That's my philosophy especially with things or situations I don't understand. If I haven't walked in their shoes, I can't say how I'd react.

guitarjee, I am bringing it to you via private message.

Considering my position at PolkMoms, I really can't get into a discussion that could have political implications.

Anyone else wanting to discus guitarjee's thoughts, jump in

jdiz, pete-n-repeat

I also don't see why anybody is making a big deal out of this. To me, This is a just another woman giving birth. It happens every day.
I would also like to know more about how it works that the ''Mom'' is breastfeeding. I think that is the best for babies, and I think it is great that she is doing that.

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To me, This is a just another woman giving birth. It happens every day.

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boys mommy ~
Yes, that is true. But there are always exceptionally interesting births. I'm always fascinated by the quad births or multiples, or certain celebrity births, but anything different will capture the public's attention.

Remember the furor a while back when a certain well known figure, a man in a relatively well known position in Polk, was wanting a sex change or getting one, (I don't remember all the details) but it was all over the local papers, there were threads on it over in Ledger forums, people were even saying the guy was not doing his kids any favors. Well, he, later she, got publicity I'm fairly sure she didn't want, in fact, I believe she lost her job due to the furor.

Anyway, it makes news. Sex change (to whatever extent hers actually was?) plus pregnancy and naturally, sensationalism takes over. It may not even have ANYTHING to do with this couple wanting publicity. But they seem to be dealing gracefully. And you must remember, it's important when someone goes through the operation, to them, to be considered as whatever the changes may indicate, in her case, she is now he, maybe not purely by birth, but by choice.

I too am fascinated how the breastfeeding could happen after the obvious hormone therapies (and or breast removal) ??? And it is wonderful it still can, but that is pretty amazing.

(Thanks Shawn, I understand.

Here's a little info on the "mom" breastfeeding. One can take medication such as Reglan (used for nausea mostly) and use a breast pump to stimulate the breasts every four hours. If someone has breastfed before it can be much more productive. Some adoptive parents do this process. Usually if a woman has never breast fed before they don't get enough to satisfy the first baby, but the more often they do it, the more productive it can be.