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Are you interested is gaining freedom from your Internet addiction? Click here and we will pray with you. Be sure to return to the Addiction home page to check out our 9 Steps to Freedom.



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I know, I know.......

It's not normal for someone to be warning his brothers and sisters of certain dangers rather than watching NFL and NASCAR or playing golf during ALL free-time.

How many of your husbands have NASCAR, NFL, and golf addictions?


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Depression
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Family Problems
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Are you having a hard time making it from one day to the next?

Does it seem that no one cares about your problems?

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Emotions Anonymous - This is a twelve-step organization designed to help people work through problems with depression, anger, broken or strained relationships, grief, anxiety, low self-esteem, panic, abnormal fears, resentment, jealousy, guilt, despair, fatigue, tension, boredom, loneliness, withdrawal, obsessive and negative thinking, worry, and compulsive behavior.

*These are some very helpful links which we have researched. We do not necessarily endorse everything on these links. These pages may link to other sources which may contain material that you may find offensive.

Please note: Material on JesusSaves.cc is not intended to be considered medical or other professional advice.

We are facing a continued increase in divorce, family problems and personal adjustment. We live in a world that is increasingly individualistic. It appears that everyone is troubled about himself/herself. Adolescent girls have lost the joy of youth by early sexual activity and weight obsession. Children are shuffled from one home to the next. Many men suffer from inadequate male role models.

Jesus cares about the intimate details of your life. If He notices even a sparrow falling to the ground, how much more does he care about your problems? Jesus will help you with all emotional issues.

With Jesus there is Eternal Joy. Being a Christian does not make life any easier. In fact, sometimes it gets harder. Jesus never promised an easy life for his followers. What he did promise was peace, internal satisfaction, and rest.

Psalm 9:9-10 "The Lord is a refuge for the oppressed, a stronghold in times of trouble. Those who know your name will trust in you, for you, Lord, have never forsaken those who seek you."

Psalm 34:18 "The Lord is close to the broken hearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit."


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18watt fan-

Do you want to know why you feel everyone is teaming up against you is because instead of trying to inform you try to shove your opinions down everyone's throat! I have read the information regarding vaccinations, but my husband and I believe that we should vacinate our child. I also agree it is a good thing to know your child's temperature-he/she might be able to go to Daycare/school,etc. Also, just because my son has a temp. I am not quick to shove the meds down his throat. Also, the Bible said there is a reason for everything, if for some reason a vaccination has a bad effect I will have to deal with it. My aunt had polio as a child due to not having the vaccine. My dad had the vaccine and he was fine. His sister has had lasting effects from the polio. I believe everyone on Polk Moms knows your opinion about organic whatevers-why can't you just carry on a conversation like the rest of us without turning everything into an opportunity to get on your soap box and preach to everyone about how everyone should follow your beliefs! I am not in the medical/pharmarcy field at all. Hope you will be able to learn how to commicate with us in all areas without taking every thing into a war of words/opinions. You know the old saying opinions are like butholes everyone has one!
 
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"We can't just sit back like spineless jellyfish and expect Him to protect us. We have to make an effort to be wise and do the right thing."

Understand 18watt that God made the knowledge available for doctors to be able to help us, if he did not want us to have doctors help us with our sicknesses, it would not be.

Your "sharing" has annoyed a lot of people on this site, as it is apparent in almost every thread you have started or posted on. You have this way of "preaching" your information rather than making it available for others to see in a typical sharing manner. I have still been wondering though, I thought this was POLKMOMS??? A place for MOMS to come and share advice and events happening with their children. Could you tell me why you would keep posting anti-vaccination information when it has been verbally apparent that no one here cares to hear it repetitively anymore??

Let me tell you something about being a mother........ we do ANYTHING for our children....... including if they are sick taking them to a doctor and yes, even vaccinating them to protect against an outbreak of those very childhood diseases that did in fact happen years ago because of not having these vaccinations available. So tell me, are you to tell me that you know what is better for my child than I do 18watt??? That I should take a change on her catching something she could DIE from??? Unless you are a LICENSED MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL I am NOT listening.
 
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This article MAY be of interest to some:

The Case Against Vaccines According to God's Word


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Most people still assume that their pediatrician knows what’s best for their babies and would never do anything to harm them. They do not question the routine administration of childhood vaccinations, nor do they inquire as to what substances are being delivered into their babies’ bodies through those needles.

However, my quest to reveal the truth about vaccines to the Body of Christ has shown that His followers have been replacing their faith in Him with faith in modern medicine.

We are commanded to take EVERYTHING to Him. “Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God.” ~Philippians 4:6

Once you have reviewed the list of toxins–mercury, aluminum, formaldehyde, aborted fetal tissue, foreign animal RNA and DNA–and understand intuitively these substances cannot be good for your baby, take your concerns to Him and pray for guidance.

We are also advised to ponder on everything. “Finally, my brothers, whatever things are true, whatever things are honest, whatever things are right, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report; if there is any virtue and if there is any praise, think on these things. ~Philippians 4:8

“Whatever things are true”:There are no conclusive irrefutable studies to prove that vaccines are safe. Thousands of parents have requested information on studies conducted on vaccines proving both efficacy and long- term safety only to find they do not exist.

If vaccines are truly safe, then physicians, government administrators and vaccine manufacturers should have no problem providing studies proving vaccine safety and efficacy to concerned parents. Instead, pediatricians tell us we are gambling with our children’s’ lives if we do not allow them to be vaccinated. My pediatrician, for instance, refused to give me a copy of package inserts for each vaccine he intended to administer to my 18-month-old daughter. “The irrefutable studies you’re looking for are out there. Just get on the Internet and look for them,” he told me, obviously irritated that I should question his judgment on such matters as my baby’s health and well-being.

For nearly eight months I’ve been asking CDC to provide me with copies of these “irrefutable” studies because they cannot be found on the Internet. Every time I have requested them, my query has been either ignored or denied. Is it possible “irrefutable” proof that vaccines are safe and effective does not exist? At this point, no evidence exists compelling me to believe otherwise.

“Whatever things are honest”:If vaccines are honestly safe, why did Congress pass a law in 1986 forcing taxpayers (not vaccine manufacturers) to compensate parents for the vaccine-induced injuries and deaths suffered by thousands of vaccinated children every year?

Most states allow unvaccinated children to attend public school and daycares provided each one has an exemption form on file with the school. Why do most public schools and day cares inform parents that their child will be denied enrollment unless he is up to date with state-recommended vaccines?

The fact is every school is obligated to provide a waiver form for parents to sign. Yet, unless parents specifically request their child be exempted from vaccination, school administrators remain silent on the issue.

Honest practice requires honest behavior with honest words. A deceitful practice requires deceitful words and deceitful behavior. There is clearly something deceitful about government immunization programs.

“Whatever things are right”:What is right about allowing the injection of live and dead viruses cultured in aborted fetal tissue into the human body? We Christians are known for our stand against taking the life of an unborn child. Are we to believe that abortion is murder in the eyes of God yet injecting the genetic material of aborted fetuses into ourselves in the name of public health is “right” in the eyes of God? Clearly one cannot believe abortion is wrong and believe vaccines containing the genetic material of aborted fetuses are “right.”

“Whatever things are lovely”:What is lovely about having animal DNA, aborted human fetal tissue and foreign animal viruses, suspended in a cocktail of the most toxic substances known to man, injected into the body so it can find its way into the bloodstream? There are 446 references to “the blood” in the Bible. Throughout the Bible God refers to the sanctity of the blood and the importance of keeping it pure. Would He consider presence of live and dead viruses, foreign human and animal DNA, mercury, aluminum and formaldehyde in our blood “lovely?”

“Whatever things are of good report”: The FDA stated that less than 10% of adverse reactions from vaccines are ever reported. Using CDC data, CDC put out two publications on vaccine-induced injuries from 1990-1996. One publication was on vaccine-induced injuries from 1990-1995. They stated there were 45,000 vaccine-injured individuals. More alarming is that this figure is LESS than 1% due to gross under reporting. So, at minimum, 45,000 x 100=4.5 million Americans have experienced adverse reactions to vaccines. This calculates to a minimum of 900,000 vaccine-induced injuries each year from 1990-1995. Vaccines are not “of good report.”



Old Testament

Nearly one million people experience adverse reactions to vaccines each year. The scope of these reactions range from mild to severe to permanent and even death. We are commanded to speak out in defiance of wrong when we are confronted by it. Though found in the Old Testament, the following Scriptures still apply to the church of today:

Ezekiel 3:16“After the seven days had passed, the LORD spoke to me.”

Ezekiel:17 “Mortal man,” he said, “I am making you a lookout for the nation of Israel. You will pass on to them the warnings I give you.”

Ezekiel 3:18“If I announce that someone evil is going to die but you do not warn him to change his ways so that he can save his life, he will die, still a sinner, but I will hold you responsible for his death.”

Ezekiel 3:19“If you do warn an evil man and he doesn’t stop sinning, he will die, still a sinner, but your life will be spared.”

Ezekiel 3:20“If someone truly good starts doing evil and I put him in a dangerous situation, he will die if you do not warn him. He will die because of his sins—I will not remember the good he did—and I will hold you responsible for his death.”

Ezekiel 3:21“If you do warn a good man not to sin and he listens to you and doesn’t sin, he will stay alive, and your life will also be spared.”



Protecting the innocent

Thousands of Christians are given the warnings from their fellow believers about the dangers of vaccines. It’s time the body of Christ took this to heart. Being responsible about the welfare of our children also means inquiring of Him, who blessed us with our children, about the benefits and/or dangers of vaccines.

My research shows that vaccines are unsafe, ineffective in preventing the spread of disease and not pleasing to God.

Besides making informed and prayerful decisions to abstain from vaccination in our own homes, we also have the responsibility of working against those who insist upon injecting our children with poisons under the false belief or claim those poisons offer protection against communicable diseases.

While the church fights to save the unborn from abortion, the church should also fight to spare the newborns, infants and children from vaccine-induced injuries and death.

Kimberley can be emailed at medlins@earthlink.net


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It hurts me to know that mothers are having children out there needlessly suffering seizures, cancer, diabetes, arthritis, allergies, autism BECAUSE of vaccination.

Ok, normally I would just let you keep going, but,
This was a post about thermometers!!!!
Not all of these children are suffering these things you have mentioned above BECAUSE of vaccinations. As most of you know, I am a supporter of the Central Florida Autism institute, a memeber of Autism Speaks, and tacanow. Now that you have officially gotten my attention.
Vaccination are ONE of the causes of autism! As you know my son is mentally ill, yes he was diagnosed with autism. Yes, he has been vaccinated. and yes, we have been to john's hopkins hospital to have genetic testing done to find out what has caused this, oh, and by the way it was not from mercury poisoning from his vaccinations.
If someone has brought up a post about Autism,
If someone has brought up a post about vaccinations,
If someone has brought up a post about organics, which I am a fan of,
If someones bring up a post related to all of these, that are related to your replies, this is greaat.
BUT AS A MOTHER OF A CHILD WITH ALL OF THESE THINGS YOU HAVE MENTIONED, this post is not related, and although the reality of my childs disease is slapped in my face on numerous occations in everyday life.
I DO NOT NEED THEM THROWN UP DURING A CONVERSATION ABOUT THERMOMETERS.
Although your intension my be for the good. Keep them to a related subject. Thanks


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Forrest Gump
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1-tired, I totally agree with ya on that one..... maybe he should start his own thread on Vaccinations causing the downfall of civilization.........but don't post it here.

THERMOMETER THREAD HERE!!!!! Big Grin
 
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Amen sisters !
I tried to explain to him in a nice way but he doesn't stop. I think he gets off on this stuff! He obviously has nothing better to do but harrass innocent mothers who are trying to talk among each other about MOTHERHOOD and girly stuff.
I don't know why he doesn't start his on web site and post all he wants. He is not welcome in my discussions.


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Not all of these children are suffering these things you have mentioned above BECAUSE of vaccinations. Vaccination are ONE of the causes of autism! .......


I agree with that statement 100%...........BUT vaccinations are a HUGE contributor.


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we have been to john's hopkins hospital to have genetic testing done to find out what has caused this, oh, and by the way it was not from mercury poisoning from his vaccinations.



Believe it or not, I agree with this statement 100% also.

Mercury is NOT the cause of autism, as so many have been preaching is the case. Mercury probably is the cause of things like parkinsons, alzheimers, and a few others.

Autism is only a SMALL portion of the problems caused by vaccinations, and it would STILL be occuring even if the mercury were to be fully removed.

To read about why this is true, AND why we are having an epidimic of many other diseases (especially in the youth) I highly suggest this paper written by DOCTOR Rebecca Carley:

INOCULATIONS: THE TRUE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION

And to listen to the accompanying audio interview of Dr. Carley regarding this issue, click the link below and click "LISTEN" to the second link down entitled:

INOCULATIONS: THE TRUE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION


PLEASE stop getting mad at me for trying to wake up as many people as I can regarding these dangers.


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He is not welcome in my discussions.


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(ahem).....

From a thread I started, you made yourself at home, of which I had no problems:

Vaccination - Be Sure to Study the OTHER Side of This Issue


AND you even posted things that were off-topic:

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Jesus Saves » Issues of Life » Emotional Issues » Depression


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The Beck Depression Inventory - Would you like to take a depression Inventory? Click here.

Peacemakers - "You may not even care to read this pamphlet. If you are depressed at the moment, you certainly won't feel like it. "What's the use of trying anything else?": you may ask. 'After all, nothing else has worked.' Well, before you put it down, let me make one clear statement that I hope will stick with you even if you temporarily lay this down, because I think it will make you want to pick it up again later on to finish reading what I have to say. That statement is this: There is real hope for you; your depression can be overcome, not only now, but for good." Excerpts from noted counselor Jay Adams, "What do you do When you Become Depressed".


etc..............


But I didn't complain.

I think open-discussions are very healthy.

Disagreements lead to problems being discussed and SOLVED.

Why all the anger?


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Oh well then, now you know how it feels!

Were praying for you 18whatever. May god be with you.


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You just don't stop do you???? Let me put this in plain terms.........

We are MOTHERS discussing the subjects if life in general, our children, and ourselves as women.

You are the one coming in and disrupting our threads by trying to shove your information down our throats!!! I don't enjoy seeing this!!

One of the reasons I love this site is that all the moms on here get along beautifully......and it is such a pleasant environment to be in....

This is the reason I left the LEDGER forums because of the controversy that arose from posting and all the bashing, name-calling, etc.
If I recall correctly that is where you were until you found your way here. This is not what us momma's want on this forum so please, if you don't have anything meaningful and relative to contribute, please don't post.
 
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if you don't have anything meaningful and relative to contribute, please don't post.[/QUOTE]

To all of the Polkmoms,
Unfortunatley this person believes that his/her replies are meaningful and relative to everything we discuss, although we feel it is totally off the main subject. I am sure we are not people to bash anyone of thier opinions, all we ask is to make sure they were relavent to the original post. Please reply only to thermometers. This may help in ending this forum. Thank you.
To: 18watt_fan,
I am sure we all agree that you have done alot of research on your opinions, and that you strongly believe you are being helpful. Please post all remarks, or replys to another forum. This one is about thermometers. No-one is going to response back to this forum unless it is about thermometers.

Ok moms....lets try this.


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This is the reason I left the LEDGER forums because of the controversy that arose from posting and all the bashing, name-calling, etc.


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Have I bashed anyone?

Have I called anyone names?

I'm confused.

I treat everyone in a civil manner, albeit controversial at times, but still civil.

If someone disagrees with you, that's not "bashing" or "name-calling".


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This is the reason I left the LEDGER forums because of the controversy that arose from posting and all the bashing, name-calling, etc.


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Have I bashed anyone?

Have I called anyone names?

I'm confused.

I treat everyone in a civil manner, albeit controversial at times, but still civil.

If someone disagrees with you, that's not "bashing" or "name-calling".


Lalalalalalalalalala.......
SOOOOOOOO...........How about those thermometers ladies???? Big Grin
 
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